[Geowanking] "formal" photo of GeoWankers at Where 2.0
ian at urbanmapping.com
Fri May 16 09:23:07 PDT 2008
How about meeting for a paintball tourney in colorado and getting it out of your system?
Ian White :: Urban Mapping Inc
690 5th Street Suite 200 :: San Francisco CA 94107
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Sent: Fri May 16 09:19:08 2008
Subject: Re: [Geowanking] "formal" photo of GeoWankers at Where 2.0
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 2:24 AM, stephen white <steve at adam.com.au> wrote:
> On 15/05/2008, at 6:54 AM, Brady Forrest wrote:
>> We will be doing this after all of the talks on the stage in the main
>> see you at 4:45!
> There can't be a "formal" photo of GeoWankers because I'm not in it! I
> complained about this before, and I'm a half-breed Pom so I'm born to be a
> whiner, but I want to create a virtual world. I want to be able to have
> these kinds of meetings as though it were real, and not a second life.
FOSS4G 2009 will be in Sydney. There is also a local OSGeo chapter - I
assume you meet with them?
> We still don't work as well together online as we do with meetings in
> person. Until this difference is solved, other problems continue to exist
> like the need to travel to work every day. I just don't see that having
> meetings about how to have meetings actually helps with meetings that aren't
> real meetings! How about we solve the problems instead?
Digital communications has done an incredible amount to enable remote
collaboration. No, it won't replace human meetings, but definitely
facilitates them and provides conduits for work where there wouldn't
> I would love to find a group of people working on solving the real problems,
> but everyone's stuck on maps. Everyscape is the only one on the right track.
> Real stuff, annotate it. Real data, represented on top of real data. Why
> aren't you working on an Open Source version of this?
> Why are you wasting time like scientists working on things that turn out not
> to be of much use? Make the effort and pick something more significant!
> Wouldn't you rather be working on things that have importance for hundreds
> of years to come?
Oh, so if we just decided to work on the *right* solution we could
stop working on the *wrong* solutions. Hrm... what is the Amazon ID
for "crystal ball"?
And re: building real things, see just one example of the effects of
the Geowanking people are doing that are solving *today's* problems
while also building towards a brighter future, one changelog at a
(twitter, georss, GoogleEarth, et al.)
> The fact that I have to write emails like these, instead of being able to
> find a group and start working with them, indicates the sheer extent of the
> problem that needs solving.
> Stop wanking and fix it!
so really, lead the way - be the out-rider, point the direction, build
a demo, create a community, make it happen (and all that jazz :)
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