[Geowanking] beyond map mashups
raj at rajsingh.org
Mon Jun 16 16:06:40 PDT 2008
One simple way to discuss this in the short term is to start "wanking"
on the various spatially-enabled, Yahoo Pipes-like tools. I know this
isn't as meta or universal as you're talking about, but it's a place
we can mess around with coding and not just talk theory.
Here's my list of "pipe" apps:
Yahoo Pipes: http://pipes.yahoo.com
IBM QEDWiki: http://services.alphaworks.ibm.com/qedwiki/
Microsoft connected services sandbox: http://www.networkmashups.com/
By the way, what's the difference between what you're talking about
and the "Enterprise Application Integration" (EAI) term the corporate
stephen white wrote:
>> To cut/paste selectively from some messages I wrote in private: The
>> durability aspect is definitely one that we need to talk about more.
>> The difficulty with the existing approaches is that it's at the crux
>> of two totally different issues:
>> 1) The specific interface of the mash-up means that data cannot be
>> pulled out and used elsewhere.
>> 2) A generalised approach to storing and retrieving data is needed,
>> but lacks the usability of the specific interface.
>> The way out of this conundrum is to come up with something that is
>> generic enough for all data, while still allowing selection of
>> interesting data. The objective is to make people seriously think
>> along the lines of "how to make data universal despite specific
>> interfaces". So it seems there's a few options:
>> 1) Anything that assists in mirroring reality, placing data in
>> virtual worlds (rather than a red dot on a map).
>> 2) Anything that enables personal machines to capture, display and
>> handle its own data instead of always on the Net.
>> 3) Anything along the lines of general purpose interfaces that
>> analyse data that it can handle, without limiting data it can't.
>> Overall, stuff along the lines of specific data, specific interfaces,
>> generalised data, generalised durability. There are two conflicting
>> approaches at the moment and we keep falling into that valley of
>> every time a mash-up is made. :)
>> Some meta-solution is needed to resolve the head-on collusion.
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