[Geowanking] VGI workshop RE: Geowanking Digest, Vol 50, Issue 3

Thu Jan 3 04:30:48 PST 2008

Regarding whether or not the VGI meeting was interesting, that depends on
one's perspective. Most geowankers listening might have thought that they
already knew most of what was discussed. But the point is that you
participate in these events (like lists) to give (to teach) also, not only
to receive. At VGI I found it refreshing to see *genuine* interest on the
part of people like Dangermond and Don Cooke (co-inventor of DIME; a
neogeographer in the late 60s!) to try to sit next to Steve Coast and a
Google guy at lunch, to learn more and to try to comprehend what is going
on.

It is important to help get others (paleos) up to speed, not just sit back
and call them cave dwellers.

We all have our limitations; for example many geowankers seem to have
limited political saavy, i.e. cool technology solves all problems...why
don't other people get it?  :-)

cheers
Mike

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Michael Gould
Centro de Visualización Interactiva  www.cevi.uji.es
Dept. Information Systems (LSI), Universitat Jaume I, 12071 Castellón, Spain
email: gould (at) lsi.uji.es  //  email2: mgould (at) opengeospatial.org
research group  www.geoinfo.uji.es  //  personal  www.mgould.com
AGILE www.agile-online.org
Vespucci Summer Institute www.vespucci.org
Erasmus Mundus: Master in Geospatial Technologies www.mastergeotech.info

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   1. Re: heh social cartography article (Sean Gillies)
   2. Re: Great Time & Space Crime Map (Andrew Turner)

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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2008 09:07:39 -0700
From: Sean Gillies <sgillies at frii.com>
Subject: Re: [Geowanking] heh social cartography article
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So, did anything interesting come out of the VGI conference? I declined
an invite to represent the AWMC mainly because we haven't yet discovered
anything about community and open data that OSM hasn't already known for
2.5 years.

Cheers,
Sean

Nick Black wrote:
> And three years later they crawl out of the cave.  Seriously though,
> its a sign of acceptance from the GIS world when established and
> respected people like Goodchild are noticing projects like OSM.
> 
> On Jan 1, 2008 12:49 AM, Daniel Dye <dye.daniel at gmail.com> wrote:
>> The full-PDF for that 2nd link can be found at
>>
http://www.ncgia.ucsb.edu/projects/vgi/docs/position/Goodchild_VGI2007.pdf
>> [ucsb.edu]
>>
>> -d
>>
>>
>> On Dec 31, 2007 2:36 PM, Anselm Hook <anselm at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> It feels like years since I've seen this kind of thing; I thought we
>>> were all past breathless articles about the possibility of social
>>> cartography?
>>>
>>> Amusing the cage of language that the author tries to capture the idea
>>> of "volunteered geographic information" within as if dealing with a
>>> container of radioactive waste...
>>>
>>>    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/12/071203111251.htm
>>>
>>>    http://www.springerlink.com/content/h013jk125081j628/
>>>
>>> Too bad this thesis about sharing is itself not shared.
>>>
>>>  - a
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 19:33:22 -0500
From: "Andrew Turner" <ajturner at highearthorbit.com>
Subject: Re: [Geowanking] Great Time & Space Crime Map
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The nice thing about how the USGS Timeline was done is that it is just
parsing a GeoRSS feed. So it's very easy to use the same parser for
any GeoRSS - not just earthquake (just need to modify the
magnitude->marker scaling code).

I used this as a model for building a Map/Timeline from KML file for
Israel-Palestine water usage project:
http://mapsomething.com/demo/waterusage/

a couple of KML files are generating the general "large scale"
timeline on the right-hand side and the finer-grain simile timeline
along the bottom.

On Dec 23, 2007 3:53 PM, Ken-ichi <kenichi.ueda at gmail.com> wrote:
> Cool.  Here's another time/space map for earthquakes:
>
> http://www.oe-files.de/gmaps/usgseq.html
>
> I think that uses the SIMILE Timeline:
> http://simile.mit.edu/timeline/.  I also worked on a similar (if
> somewhat broken) app for biological observations:
>
> http://dev.inaturalist.org/observations/explore
>
> Actually, I think a great addition to Landon's page on time in GIS
> would be different visualizations and interfaces used to visualize
> spatiotemporal data.
>
> -Ken-ichi
>
>
>
> On Dec 20, 2007 8:51 PM, Tom Longson (nym) <tomlong at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Found this map made by Doug McCune, which really pulls maps together
> > into a wonderful display by using time and space.
> >
> > http://www.universalmind.com/demo/launchpad/GeoLayer.html
> >
> > The writeup behind the demo:
> > http://dougmccune.com/blog/2007/10/30/not-your-mammas-maps/
> >
> > Tom
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