[Geowanking] Cellular provider-type device

[Mike Liebhold]

go iphone hackers!

I  hope we all can remember that without some robust user protection 
mechanisms, a rogue script could hijack the users' loc data for  
malicious purposes.

imho:  a top goal for a location utility ought to be empowering users to 
control, at the lowest level, disclosure of their own locations.

-Mike



Kevin Elliott wrote:
> Martin and I have been disassembling some of the iPhone 
> frameworks/libraries involved in retrieving the Cell ID. We made some 
> progress last night, but I have made considerable more progress today. 
> He and I will keep you guys posted soon.
>
> Kevin
>
> On Sep 14, 2007, at 12:56 PM, Martin May wrote:
>
>>
>> From what I can tell, you have to specify your location manually. 
>> Kevin Elliot and I have started working towards extracting cell IDs 
>> from the iPhone and are investigating some methods that look promising.
>>
>> Martin
>>
>> -- 
>> Martin May
>> CTO, Brightkite.com
>>
>> martin at brightkite.com <mailto:martin at brightkite.com>
>> T 720-299-4027
>>
>> On Sep 14, 2007, at 1:46 PM, Mike Liebhold wrote:
>>
>>> anyone know how this iPhone 'location based service' works?
>>>
>>> http://www.ipling.com/
>>>
>>> I'm wondering  if they have access to cell tower IDs and locations, 
>>> using some kind of IP domain loc lookup,  or if this is just 
>>> another  'click on your location on a gmap' app.
>>>
>>> -Mike  ( no iPhone for me for an other month)
>>>
>>> Martin May wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ian,
>>>>
>>>> After hacking around on my phone a little, I figured out a way to 
>>>> list all visible networks via an AT command. If you're interested, 
>>>> I can elaborate.
>>>>
>>>> AT+COPS=?
>>>> +COPS: (2,"T-Mobile",,"31026"),(1,"Cingular",,"31041"),,(0,1),(2)
>>>>
>>>> Martin
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Martin May
>>>> CTO, Brightkite.com
>>>>
>>>> martin at brightkite.com <mailto:martin at brightkite.com>
>>>> T 720-299-4027
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 12, 2007, at 4:54 PM, Ian White wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Unlikely question of the day....
>>>>>
>>>>> Anybody know of a device that indicates which network(s) provide 
>>>>> reception in a given area? Call it a 'cellular sniffer' if you like...
>>>>>
>>>>> My hack to get this done is to carry 4 cellphones bound with duct 
>>>>> tape. When  I'm done using it, it will be the perfect mobile for a 
>>>>> baby's crib!!
>>>>>
>>>>> But I'd prefer a slightly more, er, elegant hack.
>>>>>
>>>>> i
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Ian White  ::  Urban Mapping, Inc.
>>>>> 690 Fifth Street Suite 200  ::  San Francisco  CA 94107
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>>>>> <http://urbanmapping.com>
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