[Geowanking] Re: GeoDRM

Josh@oklieb josh at oklieb.net
Mon Oct 16 07:58:07 PDT 2006


Hi,

Thanks for all of the responses and comments, and I really do mean  
all of them. Light of day is my biggest goal. What strikes me about  
your SENC example, Frank, is that it could only work for the  
particular provider if consumers did not really understand what was  
being done and that there could easily be alternatives with different  
technical means, business model, and usage rights. In a sense, it  
serves both sides to take this narrow view of DRM, "It's not DRM if  
it isn't some awkward and unfair enforcement mechanism".

That said, help me come up with a better term for work on a rights  
framework. Time to retire the "hit me" label.

Cheers,

Josh


On Oct 16, 2006, at 10:42 AM, Frank Warmerdam wrote:

> Josh at oklieb wrote:
>> The point of the present GeoDRM work, however some might want to  
>> demonize it on the basis of the term, is first and foremost to  
>> define a system of rights information (metadata and protocols)  
>> which lets anyone who uses geospatial intellectual property,  
>> communicate and be clear on the terms of that use. This seems to  
>> me in the end a clearer and more effective way of documenting  
>> unfairness in particular protection schemes and moving toward more  
>> fair, less proprietary systems, than cracking them and ranting  
>> about them, but that's just my preference.
>
> Josh,
>
> I'm pretty enthusiastic about a GeoDRM that aims to systematically,  
> clearly
> and unambiguously describe use-rights of geodata.
>
> I'm less enthusiastic about DRM activities that are primarily  
> focused on
> building a software (and sometimes hardware) stack that enforces  
> restrictions
> against the will of the user, since the usual approach to achieving  
> this is
> to close and "lock" the software.
>
> As I noted after your talk at FOSS4G, the case that really gets  
> under my skin
> is SENC (Secure Electronic Digital Charts) which seek to limit the  
> data
> to view-only on a single hardware instance, primarily to support a
> particular revenue model.  As you can imagine actually enforcing  
> this leads
> to quite a closed system.
>
> I think it is very helpful to bring forward use cases for GeoDRM  
> that are
> useful, while not ultimately requiring an extremely closed approach.
> Otherwise those of us a bit predisposed against DRM will always  
> project
> our worse case scenarios onto the name. :-)
>
> Best regards,
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