[Geowanking] Geospatial Standards For Free Software

[Jody Garnett]

Landon Blake wrote:
> I doubt I will be successful where you have failed.
>   
Ah but together we yet prevail! Almost and open-source moto, or at least 
open development.
> Perhaps the GeoAPI is the solution I am looking for...We'll have to see
> what type of response I get.
>   
I tell you what, they are used to being a nice stable project working 
from a) specification or b) consensus.

> If I wanted to get my work with the OGD into the OGC and GeoAPI, what
> would be the way to get the process started, and at what point in the
> development would it be best to start?
>   
As I recall the OGD is your idea of a local geospatial database? Similar 
in concept to something ESRI has going ... geodatabase?

I usually approach things one of two ways:

Working against an existing existing specification:
- bang out the interfaces, include some magic @URL annotations citing 
the original docs and place them into GeoAPI pending

If you want to do something new and exciting:
- start with an implementation, ie grab a "ext" module in geotools (show 
up at an IRC meeting and ask) and try out your ideas, and get people 
excited, your gt work will go out in the next release
- place the proven interfaces into GeoAPI pending, and be prepaired for 
very careful detailed feedback and possibly a paper (I never survive the 
feedback process unless I have something I can run to explore the trade 
offs).
> After all of the interfaces had been defined, but before the
> implementation? Or after the implementation?
>   
See above: I tend to not put anything forth as a standard until there 
are two implementations (open-source or commercial implementations) of 
the interfaces.  GeoAPI does not stick by this however, as far as I know 
there is only one implementation against the GO-1 interfaces they have 
defined (but Martin has plans).
> Thanks for your help.
>   
np, I hate seeing eager mind with good ideas not find a home.
> Landon
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: geowanking-bounces at lists.burri.to
> [mailto:geowanking-bounces at lists.burri.to] On Behalf Of Jody Garnett
> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 5:11 PM
> To: geowanking at lists.burri.to
> Subject: Re: [Geowanking] Geospatial Standards For Free Software
>
> Landon Blake wrote:
>   
>> Jody,
>>
>> After talking to the guys at OpenSDI, I have decided to try for a more
>> "reasonable" solution.
>>
>> http://feature.opengeospatial.org/forumbb/viewtopic.php?p=845#845
>>
>> I hope I can work something out for with the OGC. If this is possible,
>> then I will work to improve on its faults instead of trying to set up
>>     
> an
>   
>> alternative.
>>     
> Um concerning your request - working on the GeoAPI project is how I 
> accomplish this task.  I still find it more efficient as we are forced 
> to work things out with source code (that compiles), and then some 
> hapless OGC volunteers get to go and sit in technical meetings and 
> report back to the group.
>
> Oh wait I am a hapless OGC volunteer in this respect now. Aside: even 
> for their closed door projects java interfaces can be defined (and have 
> been) to solicit feedback ...
>
> Normally the list generates 1-2 messages a week, that will go up as 
> Byrce is punting out some ISO based coverage madness, and my bluff is 
> being called concerning the Feature Model work done in September. Now 
> that a GeoServer branch has used it successfully I have no excuses left 
> but to put it out for public review.
>
> Later,
> Jody
>
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