[Geowanking] Re: What's in a name

Mike Liebhold mnl at well.com
Thu Dec 1 12:29:09 PST 2005


David Fawcett wrote:

> But, what is in a name?....

Geowankers -by name, probably simply because of the name geowankers- 
were publically discouraged from participating in a very high profile 
geo event recently [which I won't name] despite the extraordinary 
professional, technical and creative accomplishments in digital geo 
arts, sciences and technology by many people on the geowanking list.

Ultimately, there was a mild  back channel retraction,  but no public 
apology or  explicit acknowledgement of  expertise of people on this 
list who aren't embarrased by a silly self deprecating name.

:-(  




>
> David.
>
> On 12/1/05, *Tracey P. Lauriault* <tlauriau at magma.ca 
> <mailto:tlauriau at magma.ca>> wrote:
>
>     *Autodesk Contributes Web Mapping Software to Open Source
>     *Here is a story about autodesk & mapserver foundation.
>     http://spatialnews.geocomm.com/dailynews/2005/dec/01/news1.html
>     <http://spatialnews.geocomm.com/dailynews/2005/dec/01/news1.html>,
>     it remains a marketing blurb but I think speaks to Alex's & Frank's
>     questions.
>     I am personally just happy to see an ultra proprietary org like
>     autodesk
>     going open.
>
>     Cheers
>     tracey
>
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>     >Today's Topics:
>     >
>     >   1. Re: MapServer Foundation; a non-profit legal entity      being
>     >      formed for the protection of the MapServer code (Alex Willmer)
>     >   2. Re: MapServer Foundation;        a non-profit legal entity
>     being
>     >      formed for the protection of the MapServer code (Frank
>     Warmerdam)
>     >   3. Sony Root Kit maps (Sophia Parafina)
>     >   4. Re: Sony Root Kit maps (Rich Gibson)
>     >   5. Re: Sony Root Kit maps (Eugen Leitl)
>     >   6. Re: Sony Root Kit maps (Sophia Parafina)
>     >
>     >
>     >----------------------------------------------------------------------
>     >
>     >Message: 1
>     >Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 23:36:25 +0000
>     >From: Alex Willmer <alex at moreati.org.uk <mailto:alex at moreati.org.uk>>
>     >Subject: Re: [Geowanking] MapServer Foundation; a non-profit legal
>     >       entity  being formed for the protection of the MapServer code
>     >To: geowanking at lists.burri.to <mailto:geowanking at lists.burri.to>
>     >Message-ID: <1133307385.8865.9.camel at localhost.localdomain
>     <mailto:1133307385.8865.9.camel at localhost.localdomain>>
>     >Content-Type: text/plain
>     >
>     >On Mon, 2005-11-28 at 09:51 -0500, Tracey P. Lauriault wrote:
>     >
>     >
>     >>This is very exciting!
>     >>MapServer Foundation; a non-profit legal entity being formed for
>     the
>     >>protection of the MapServer code and to provide a supportive
>     environment
>     >>for the development of open source geospatial technology.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >
>     >After reading about this announcement, I don't quite understand the
>     >relationship Between MapServer Cheetah (aka UMN MapServer) and
>     MapServer
>     >Enterprise (sequel to Autodesk MapGuide).
>     >
>     >Why have the 2 been jointly branded and used to form the core of this
>     >foundation? Do the 2 share code/architecture or is there some other
>     >reason they make good bed fellows?
>     >
>     >Regards
>     >
>     >Alex
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >------------------------------
>     >
>     >Message: 2
>     >Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 18:56:44 -0500
>     >From: Frank Warmerdam <warmerdam at pobox.com
>     <mailto:warmerdam at pobox.com>>
>     >Subject: Re: [Geowanking] MapServer Foundation;        a
>     non-profit legal
>     >       entity being formed for the protection of the   MapServer
>     code
>     >To: geowanking at lists.burri.to <mailto:geowanking at lists.burri.to>
>     >Message-ID:
>     >      
>     <931f8ea90511291556mc9ed403v1d80e9df5ff3a60b at mail.gmail.com
>     <mailto:931f8ea90511291556mc9ed403v1d80e9df5ff3a60b at mail.gmail.com>>
>     >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>     >
>     >On 11/29/05, Alex Willmer <alex at moreati.org.uk
>     <mailto:alex at moreati.org.uk>> wrote:
>     >
>     >
>     >>On Mon, 2005-11-28 at 09:51 -0500, Tracey P. Lauriault wrote:
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>>This is very exciting!
>     >>>MapServer Foundation; a non-profit legal entity being formed
>     for the
>     >>>protection of the MapServer code and to provide a supportive
>     environment
>     >>>for the development of open source geospatial technology.
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>After reading about this announcement, I don't quite understand the
>     >>relationship Between MapServer Cheetah (aka UMN MapServer) and
>     MapServer
>     >>Enterprise (sequel to Autodesk MapGuide).
>     >>
>     >>Why have the 2 been jointly branded and used to form the core of
>     this
>     >>foundation? Do the 2 share code/architecture or is there some other
>     >>reason they make good bed fellows?
>     >>
>     >>
>     >
>     >Alex,
>     >
>     >Good question.  They do share a number of technical components,
>     >and we hope they will soon share more.  They are being both
>     >handled in one foundation, with co-branding, in order to build a
>     >stronger, more vibrant community rather than two competing
>     >communities.  Whether that eventually turns out to have been a
>     >good idea remains to be seen.
>     >
>     >There is a discussion list at http://mapserverfoundation.org/ that
>     >might be the best place to ask questions.
>     >
>     >Best regards,
>     >--
>     >---------------------------------------+--------------------------------------
>
>     >I set the clouds in motion - turn up   | Frank Warmerdam,
>     warmerdam at pobox.com <mailto:warmerdam at pobox.com>
>     >light and sound - activate the windows |
>     http://pobox.com/~warmerdam <http://pobox.com/%7Ewarmerdam>
>     >and watch the world go round - Rush    | Geospatial Programmer
>     for Rent
>     >
>     >
>     >------------------------------
>     >
>     >Message: 3
>     >Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 07:04:08 -0500
>     >From: Sophia Parafina < sparafina at comcast.net
>     <mailto:sparafina at comcast.net>>
>     >Subject: [Geowanking] Sony Root Kit maps
>     >To: geowanking at lists.burri.to <mailto:geowanking at lists.burri.to>
>     >Message-ID: < 438D9538.9060604 at comcast.net
>     <mailto:438D9538.9060604 at comcast.net>>
>     >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>     >
>     >Dan Kaminsky who does some wacked out things with networks has been
>     >mapping the prevalence of the Sony DRM rootkit.  Dan has some pretty
>     >pictures over time.  Check it out at: http://doxpara.com/
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >------------------------------
>     >
>     >Message: 4
>     >Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 06:27:11 -0800
>     >From: Rich Gibson <rich.gibson at gmail.com
>     <mailto:rich.gibson at gmail.com>>
>     >Subject: Re: [Geowanking] Sony Root Kit maps
>     >To: geowanking at lists.burri.to <mailto:geowanking at lists.burri.to>
>     >Message-ID:
>     >      
>     <c21ff4150511300627x1a721ef4i86ccbe6e9f924e6f at mail.gmail.com
>     <mailto:c21ff4150511300627x1a721ef4i86ccbe6e9f924e6f at mail.gmail.com>>
>     >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>     >
>     >Dan does whacked out things in general...
>     >
>     >He also has used open source 3D imaging software from what he calls
>     >the 'medical ghetto' for various visualizations.  He says there is a
>     >huge sort of parallel world of open source medical applications that
>     >are mostly unknown outside of the specialist medical community.
>     >
>     >On 11/30/05, Sophia Parafina < sparafina at comcast.net
>     <mailto:sparafina at comcast.net>> wrote:
>     >
>     >
>     >>Dan Kaminsky who does some wacked out things with networks has been
>     >>mapping the prevalence of the Sony DRM rootkit.  Dan has some pretty
>     >>pictures over time.  Check it out at: http://doxpara.com/
>     >>
>     >>
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>     >
>     >
>     >------------------------------
>     >
>     >Message: 5
>     >Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 15:47:02 +0100
>     >From: Eugen Leitl <eugen at leitl.org <mailto:eugen at leitl.org>>
>     >Subject: Re: [Geowanking] Sony Root Kit maps
>     >To: geowanking at lists.burri.to <mailto:geowanking at lists.burri.to>
>     >Message-ID: <20051130144702.GH2249 at leitl.org
>     <mailto:20051130144702.GH2249 at leitl.org>>
>     >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>     >
>     >On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 06:27:11AM -0800, Rich Gibson wrote:
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >>He also has used open source 3D imaging software from what he calls
>     >>the 'medical ghetto' for various visualizations.  He says there
>     is a
>     >>huge sort of parallel world of open source medical applications that
>     >>are mostly unknown outside of the specialist medical community.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >
>     >Dan Kaminsky discovers OpenQVIS for the first time and assumes
>     everybody's
>     >in the same ghetto as him.
>     >
>     >
>     >
>
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