[Geowanking]RSS standardization and Geo
mnl at well.com
Mon May 26 08:42:19 PDT 2003
Anselm Hook wrote
>geourl and other 'social mapping services' are not actually
>very much related to standards promoted by OpenGIS such as GML.
I do agree wiith all of your concerns about alternate approaches to
encoding data . There are huge problems with all of geo related sofware
ecosystems you mentioned, But while we have our phasers set on 'flame'
let us not forgot OpenLocationServices, nor exclude Symbian, Brew,
Palm, ESRI ArcEverything, Microsoft Mappoint.NET, or Java Jlocation.
Sure, Geoflavors of rss and rdf do indeed looking like promising
development spaces for new social apps, but don't say anything about
layering and rendering combinations of spatial data. .Can someone here
can tell me what is the consensus process for adoption of GeoRSS/RDF?
And if GML semantics are too heavy, then developers, and users won't
use them, and none of the new wireless services or browser vendors will
support it. Simple. But meanwhile, these are, indeed, exciting
times. It's way too early to get too religious A lot of really smart
people in a number of different but related geosoftware domains are
building interesting toys and toolboxes for different purposes, that
will inevitibly have to be combined , or at least interoperate to solve
thousands of problems and create thousands of newapps we haven't even
What's cool with geourl, and <icbm> is Josh has, succeded where others
( geodns and .GEO, et.al.) have failed to create a grass roots adoption
of an elegant and simple ad-hoc standard geocode for existing www docs.
Let's geocode the whole Web! . I plan on being bored with the narrow,
geocoded yellow page directories the wireless carriers and 'Big Portals'
are planning for use. I can't wait for the day my agent data miners can
scour a wild geocoded web, and the blog ecosystem for the exact spatial
information that makes best sense for my precise frame of interest for
combination in a dynamic layered interface.
Meanwhile, you are right that it's really a question of foreground, and
background, My personal info is closest, on top, social information - a
layer away, and then the background geocoded www, and on the bottom,
away the old stovepipe gis webservices sitting behind soap/uddi, and
crufty Microsoft apis. I might curse, but I want to retrieve and
integrate the data on those servers,.My personal and social networks, do
NOT exist in isolation like some old MS Office or Outlook apps, but
will always exist in -context- of the richness of the geocoded web and
vast spatial information behind the standards complient doors. If formal
standards makes it easier for me to combine my personal experience -in
layers- with complex and disparate data sets , then I say: " Go for it!
Everybody" GIS, OGC, GML communities are not my enemies, but brethern
in the battle to make spatial information interopeable, useful and fun.
>>i'll offer a reading of the situation. as i understand it, an RSS(2.0)
>>module is providing an XML namespace with a vocabulary for talking
>>about [threads | books | people | geolocation | whatever].
>>It seems any standard would be driven by application, whether software
>>or hardware (ubiquitous gps) -- such as where ICBM meta tag has become
>>defacto standard for indicating -something- geo about HTML, due to
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